Curse

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 22, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Did it have to be done by Vanquishing? =\

For me, Vanquishing feels like a typical "Deathmatch" in an FPS game - pointless killing with no goal, it's not fun.

VinnyRidira · Jul 22, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

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Originally Posted by Proff

and yet you want a higher level cap...

No I want a reason to grind vanquishing not grind per se. All the stupid titles in GW are bloody grind. I have a Rainbow Phoenix for 15 titles on one char. I have just played a D2 char through the 5 acts and levelled up to 46 on the way without grind. I hate grind for grinds sake. I have a level 8 lightbringer and 2 or 3 level 10 Ursan. The fun was seeing how fast we could farm Norn faction, but that soon becomes a bore. All I am suggesting is make the grind have some meaning other than just another stupid title.

Again I ask when will we get more information on GW2 - I stand to be corrected but the last we heard of it was more than a year ago.

MagmaRed · Jul 23, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

And what would be the point of a higher level? More attribute points? More health? More armor? More energy? What would be the use in getting to level 25 instead of level 20?

I don't want anything to mess with the balance of the game more than Anet already has. If you don't intend to make a level 25 character have benefits a level 20 character doesn't have, then why have it? E-peen? Guess what, that is what the titles are for.

If you want to increase the abilities of a character who gets to level 25, then you are throwing the current balance out the window, and it is already in disrepair.

Did you think about this, or do you just want something to make yourself look cool that doesn't get called a title?

Tyla · Jul 23, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

Did it have to be done by Vanquishing? =\

For me, Vanquishing feels like a typical "Deathmatch" in an FPS game - pointless killing with no goal, it's not fun.

I personally love deathmatches.

Difference is I'm playing against real people of varying skill levels and predictabilty instead of shoddy, predictable AI.

VinnyRidira · Jul 23, 2008, 05:22 AM // 05:22

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

And what would be the point of a higher level? More attribute points? More health? More armor? More energy? What would be the use in getting to level 25 instead of level 20?

I don't want anything to mess with the balance of the game more than Anet already has. If you don't intend to make a level 25 character have benefits a level 20 character doesn't have, then why have it? E-peen? Guess what, that is what the titles are for.

If you want to increase the abilities of a character who gets to level 25, then you are throwing the current balance out the window, and it is already in disrepair.

Did you think about this, or do you just want something to make yourself look cool that doesn't get called a title?

Look you can use the consumables like Celerity etc and you get the extra points or the equivalent of extra levels, so what balance are you trying to preserve. I was not talking about PvP or PvE in normal mode. It was just a suggestion to give one a reason to do some of the really dumb things in GW. Lets face it, do not complete certain quests because it is to your advantage not to, is really a dumb thing. If doing Blood washes Blood in hard mode avoid fighting anything as much as possible in order to get that done as quickly as possible, is another dumb thing.

MagmaRed · Jul 23, 2008, 10:51 AM // 10:51

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Originally Posted by VinnyRidira

Look you can use the consumables like Celerity etc and you get the extra points or the equivalent of extra levels, so what balance are you trying to preserve. I was not talking about PvP or PvE in normal mode. It was just a suggestion to give one a reason to do some of the really dumb things in GW. Lets face it, do not complete certain quests because it is to your advantage not to, is really a dumb thing. If doing Blood washes Blood in hard mode avoid fighting anything as much as possible in order to get that done as quickly as possible, is another dumb thing.

Dude.... are you really that dumb? You missed my whole point.

WHY WOULD I WANT TO REACH LEVEL 25?

It seems like a different kind of grind for grind's sake. Without any benefit in being a higher level, what is the point in doing it? To have a R/Mo25 Magma Red listed instead of a R/Mo20 Magma Red?

If there is no benefit to being a higher level, why would I care if I got to a higher level, and why would I want to?

Zaris · Jul 23, 2008, 11:28 AM // 11:28

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Originally Posted by VinnyRidira

Give us a reason to play hard mode or vanquish areas other than the stupid title chase.

Fun?

/notsigned

Red Sand · Jul 23, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by VinnyRidira

Again I ask when will we get more information on GW2 - I stand to be corrected but the last we heard of it was more than a year ago.

When they are ready to Beta, I'm sure they'll let us know. Right now, if ANet told us significant details of their plans and then were unable to actually execute them next year, we'd complain on how much they've failed. By not giving us details, we can only complain that they haven't let us in on the big secret instead of being disappointed with the actual product.

Since I don't rush through content and then QQ that there's nothing to do, I'm not overly concerned over when GW2 will hit the streets or what it will be like when it does.

But I'm a good mushroom.

Red Sand · Jul 23, 2008, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

WHY WOULD I WANT TO REACH LEVEL 25?

To make soloing Hard Mode easier of course.

I mean, why else would I play a Cooperative RPG? Group with other people? Yuck.

/sarcasm off

Kanyatta · Jul 24, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by VinnyRidira

No I want a reason to grind vanquishing not grind per se. All the stupid titles in GW are bloody grind. I have a Rainbow Phoenix for 15 titles on one char. I have just played a D2 char through the 5 acts and levelled up to 46 on the way without grind. I hate grind for grinds sake. I have a level 8 lightbringer and 2 or 3 level 10 Ursan. The fun was seeing how fast we could farm Norn faction, but that soon becomes a bore. All I am suggesting is make the grind have some meaning other than just another stupid title.

Again I ask when will we get more information on GW2 - I stand to be corrected but the last we heard of it was more than a year ago.

A few points from me:

A. The "reason to grind vanquishing" is the title.

B. If you don't want to grind for the title, don't do it. No one is forcing you to.

C. Guild Wars was never meant to be a game where "hours played > skill". If you make a very high level cap, it throws that entire idea out the window, and if the higher level is just aesthetic and has no extra bonuses, then it's basically another title, but not by name.

D. Ok, you got your D2 character to a high level by playing the game, so have I. D2 is a completely different game from GW, it's not easy to directly correlate the two.

E. Again, if you don't want to grind, then don't do it. Go play GvG or something remotely fun, or find another game, this one's pretty much dead anyway.

F. While there hasn't been much of GW2 in the last year, we sure know a hell of a lot more about it than we did in July 2007, I guarantee it.